Honegger at the Vancouver Hearings

Barbara Honegger’s Vancouver PowerPoint

Honegger has some REALLY good points about the Pentagon attack-- how it was actually central to 9/11 being more than just another OK city or WTC 1993 bombing, and key for starting the world wide US military response to "terrorism". And of course, it was an inside set-up, with a fake-plane crash and various ruses... check out her material. She has a ton! An important point about the Pentagon attack is that it is HIGHLY unlikely the Mossad set it up and completely covered it up with US help, so there needed to be some major US military complicity. In the case of the Pentagon attack, we can say the US MIHOP, with good certainty.

Slide 6:

Bush Said It Was The Pentagon Attack That Made It “War” •In His Memoirs and Speeches, he said after WTC 1 was hit, he thought it was a due to ‘a terrible pilot’, an accident •When told of the WTC 2 hit, Card said, and he thought, ‘America is under attack’ •But with the Pentagon Attack, he “knew” ‘We’re at War!’ •The Pentagon Attack had to succeed to effect the Global Domination Agenda, Surveillance State •Therefore, Insiders Had to Control It •As Planes might miss regardless of who controlled them, only preplaced explosives were certain to create the needed effects

The Incredible Lightpole of Being

It seems to me that it's almost impossible for that huge lightpole-- some 30 feet long and weighing hundreds of pounds-- to be knocked airborne either perfectly vertical or flipped over with the end up such that the pole spears the windshield without contacting the hood of the cab. Not to mention the almost impossible odds of the cab traveling 40 mph and being in the exact right spot for the pole to go in the windshield in that manner. Seems like England would have seen the plane go over and the pole getting knocked in front of him, as the pole would need to be airborne for a bit to go into his windshield like that. But he says he never saw the plane. But even beyond that, once the pole goes into the windshield, the bulk of the pole is still outside and weighing hundreds of pounds and gravity would pull the pole onto the hood. England clearly says it was the long section of the pole that went into his cab, not a smaller piece (which is actually much more plausible). So as far as I am concerned, the pole simply cannot have gone into his cab, so he is lying or severely deluded. Keep in mind England has some suspicious things about him, as I outlined here:
http://pentagonhit.blogspot.com/2010/07/strange-case-of-lloyde-england.html
I think it is likely he is an agent or a patsy. If he is an agent, his goal would be to spread disinfo.

Further, this story is clearly bull--

"Lloyd, 69, began the morning of September 11, 2001 like most days, driving his taxi cab. A passenger in Rosslyn told him what had happened at the World Trade Center so he turned on his radio and headed home. As he approached the Navy Annex, he saw a plane flying dangerously low overhead. Simultaneously, the plane struck a light pole and the pole came crashing down onto the front of Lloyd’s taxi cab, destroying the windshield in front of his eyes. Glass was everywhere as he tried to stop the car. Another car stopped and the driver helped move the heavy pole off Lloyd’s car. As they were moving the pole, they heard a big boom and turned to see an explosion. The light pole fell on Lloyd and he struggled to get up from underneath, wondering what had happened."

There is NO WAY this time-line is possible-- the plane would have hit the Pentagon a few seconds after the lightpole incident, yet it would have taken one minute at minimum for the described series of events with another car stopping and the two people trying to move the pole.

Official Govt Photo of the Cab and Lightpole

Note possible arm pieces behind cab, and other pieces to the left.

Even Simpler Proof That the Pentagon Cab Story Is Bull

(see update below)

Look at the tops of the light poles around the highway near the Pentagon in these pics:


They all have a straight main pole, and then the light is at the top, at the end of two curving arms, right?

Now look at the pole found near England's cab, that supposedly penetrated the windshield of his cab:



You should see that the main pole has a curved top, it is not straight-- so it is a completely different type of pole.

It makes no sense that there would be one different type of pole here, in the middle of the other types, unless this pole was completely planted from the beginning.

UPDATE: As discussed here, the pole may be a standard one that is bent at the top by the "impact". This explanation does make more sense than having the wrong pole there-- and the bending not being a perfect parallel angle with the base (see middle pic of knocked down pole above)makes sense with this explanation-- but this idea presents new problems. The are several oddities now:
1) how did the pole get bent so perfectly and smoothly and extremely?
2) what was the position of the pole when it supposedly struck the cab?
3) the base of the pole was clearly moved in an arc, but who did this moving-- the cab or people?
4) MOST NOTABLY-- if there was such an extreme impact to bend the pole like this, wouldn't the various pieces of the lamp pole be sprayed over a wide area instead of looking like they just plopped over in the road?

Ventura Does the Pentagon

Despite the annoying tone of the show, they do a pretty good job covering many of the key aspects of the attack, and it was a pretty strong debunking of the official story. Real highlights were the interview with April Gallop, the bit with the missing 2.3 trillion dollars and the flight simulator test. The bit at the end with the 9/11 Commission member was interesting. They didn't touch at all on the North Citgo witnesses, or the Lloyde England story; they didn't show ANY of the witnesses who saw a plane.

Simple Proof That the Pentagon Cab Story Is Bull

If the light pole fell down from the plane impact, then hit and PENETRATED his cab WHILE the cab driver was driving, wouldn't the top of the pole have smashed INTO his cab?

Why is the light top then lying on the ground smashed around in pieces? Indeed, it looks like there is glass smashed on the ground near the top pieces (the very left side of the pic)-- like the top fell and impacted there!

Cruise Missile at the Pentagon?

Hmmm, hadn't seen this before. Long article, but seems mostly reasonable and up-to-date.