Pentagon Witnesses: Sepulveda, Wheelhouse, Storti, Wallace
Noel Sepulveda: Brainwashed Pentagon Witness?
I listened to Jeff Hill's phone call with Pentagon attack witness Sepulveda.
He claims he saw the plane hit the light-poles, and everything else-- the approach, the impact, the fireball, the plane hole, the bodies in the plane, etc. Most bizarrely, he claims to have found the (apparently intact) cockpit with intact non-burned terrorist bodies in the pilots seats and intact non-burned pilots right behind them. He also was hit on the head during his actions on 9/11 and he passed out-- did someone knock him out?
Other notes:
1) Sepulveda says on 9/11 that he was coming to the Pentagon for a test for a promotion. I wonder if the "plane attack" was his test!
2) Hill calls Sepulveda without any warning, apparently just a cold call, and Hill launched into 9/11 right away-- like the second sentence-- and Sepulveda gladly started going into his story. He was way too willing to talk. Seems like was he under orders to talk. He cannot be considered a reliable witness.
3) Curiously, Sepulveda says the plane landing gear was down, in contrast to every other account.
Keith Wheelhouse-- Says Pentagon plane was in a dive; didn't see direct hit (couldn't have from his position in Arlington cemetery). Says C-130 was VERY close behind AA77 (10 seconds; contradicted by Anthony Tribby who says it was more like a minute after (see first link)). Says he saw AA77 approach for one minute, saw C-130 approach close behind but higher. Curiously, he doesn't say anything about the long circular approach of AA77, which he should have seen if he tracked the plane for that long. Sounds like a stereotypical hick, particularly in the beginning. Seems to be a hard-core right-wing conservative; didn't seem to think 9/11 an inside job was important (!?!?). Thinks bin Laden could have had bombs planted in WTC (yeah right).
From this interview, I learn that Jeff's official job is a "DJ at a bar".
Overall, Wheelhouse is not particularly supportive of the official story, imo. Assuming he's telling the truth, it's not clear that he:
a) couldn't have been fooled by a fly-over
b) could have seen a low-level fly-over
Steve Storti: Interesting guy, but kind of all blowhard know-it-all, too eager to talk, he happily went on for an hour with Hill. The biggest problem with Storti's account is his view wasn't that close-- about half a mile away, and he says he saw passengers moving in the rear windows of the plane. Says the plane came up 395 then banked right, says it was clearly an American plane. His address of 14th and Eads doesn't exist, but 15th and Eads shows up on Google maps. His annotated map can be seen here. He can't have seen the impact with the building from his perspective, says the fireball was 600 feet in diameter (sure).
Other points--
1) May not have represented his dealings with Craig Ranke properly (see link)-- possibly was trying to sow dissension in the field.
2) Basically supports official 9/11 story, with corruption and incompetence as the explanation. Strongly argued against WTC demolition. But also supports the idea of all conflicts being engineered by elites. Says US media publishes lots of lies, but doesn't indicate specifically what are the lies. His thoughts seem somewhat incongruous in these regards.
3) Not clear who Storti works for now, says he does counseling for stress. Trying to go to Iran to help deal with their "massive" drug abuse problem (?). Said he was having trouble getting a VISA for Iran as they suspect he is CIA.
4) Very annoying how happy the Pumpitout crew (particularly Shure, Broken Sticks, Yougene Debs) are to find a plane witness and prove Ranke wrong. They are highly biased towards the plane story and against Ranke. Though from what I have seen, Ranke seems reasonable.
Alan Wallace: seems like a genuinely decent guy, if a bit long-winded and somewhat too happy to talk about 9/11. He is a firefighter, was next to the heliport, saw the plane very briefly before it hit. Interestingly said he didn't see any clear plane debris himself. Seems he could have been fooled by a flyover and bombs.
I listened to Jeff Hill's phone call with Pentagon attack witness Sepulveda.
He claims he saw the plane hit the light-poles, and everything else-- the approach, the impact, the fireball, the plane hole, the bodies in the plane, etc. Most bizarrely, he claims to have found the (apparently intact) cockpit with intact non-burned terrorist bodies in the pilots seats and intact non-burned pilots right behind them. He also was hit on the head during his actions on 9/11 and he passed out-- did someone knock him out?
Other notes:
1) Sepulveda says on 9/11 that he was coming to the Pentagon for a test for a promotion. I wonder if the "plane attack" was his test!
2) Hill calls Sepulveda without any warning, apparently just a cold call, and Hill launched into 9/11 right away-- like the second sentence-- and Sepulveda gladly started going into his story. He was way too willing to talk. Seems like was he under orders to talk. He cannot be considered a reliable witness.
3) Curiously, Sepulveda says the plane landing gear was down, in contrast to every other account.
Keith Wheelhouse-- Says Pentagon plane was in a dive; didn't see direct hit (couldn't have from his position in Arlington cemetery). Says C-130 was VERY close behind AA77 (10 seconds; contradicted by Anthony Tribby who says it was more like a minute after (see first link)). Says he saw AA77 approach for one minute, saw C-130 approach close behind but higher. Curiously, he doesn't say anything about the long circular approach of AA77, which he should have seen if he tracked the plane for that long. Sounds like a stereotypical hick, particularly in the beginning. Seems to be a hard-core right-wing conservative; didn't seem to think 9/11 an inside job was important (!?!?). Thinks bin Laden could have had bombs planted in WTC (yeah right).
From this interview, I learn that Jeff's official job is a "DJ at a bar".
Overall, Wheelhouse is not particularly supportive of the official story, imo. Assuming he's telling the truth, it's not clear that he:
a) couldn't have been fooled by a fly-over
b) could have seen a low-level fly-over
Steve Storti: Interesting guy, but kind of all blowhard know-it-all, too eager to talk, he happily went on for an hour with Hill. The biggest problem with Storti's account is his view wasn't that close-- about half a mile away, and he says he saw passengers moving in the rear windows of the plane. Says the plane came up 395 then banked right, says it was clearly an American plane. His address of 14th and Eads doesn't exist, but 15th and Eads shows up on Google maps. His annotated map can be seen here. He can't have seen the impact with the building from his perspective, says the fireball was 600 feet in diameter (sure).
Other points--
1) May not have represented his dealings with Craig Ranke properly (see link)-- possibly was trying to sow dissension in the field.
2) Basically supports official 9/11 story, with corruption and incompetence as the explanation. Strongly argued against WTC demolition. But also supports the idea of all conflicts being engineered by elites. Says US media publishes lots of lies, but doesn't indicate specifically what are the lies. His thoughts seem somewhat incongruous in these regards.
3) Not clear who Storti works for now, says he does counseling for stress. Trying to go to Iran to help deal with their "massive" drug abuse problem (?). Said he was having trouble getting a VISA for Iran as they suspect he is CIA.
4) Very annoying how happy the Pumpitout crew (particularly Shure, Broken Sticks, Yougene Debs) are to find a plane witness and prove Ranke wrong. They are highly biased towards the plane story and against Ranke. Though from what I have seen, Ranke seems reasonable.
Alan Wallace: seems like a genuinely decent guy, if a bit long-winded and somewhat too happy to talk about 9/11. He is a firefighter, was next to the heliport, saw the plane very briefly before it hit. Interestingly said he didn't see any clear plane debris himself. Seems he could have been fooled by a flyover and bombs.
posted by spooked at 5:31 PM
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